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A L Boudreaux's avatar

In a culture such as ours, it’s still nice to see a man in a suit - although a badly fitting suit is just that - we have lost the intergenerational tutoring, and influencers - paid or otherwise has pushed FASHION over quality. Unfortunately, few can afford really well made clothing. At one time we ( who cared) bought vintage clothing from the 30’s-50’s to get that quality. Those pieces are now moth eaten. The standards for dress have gone downhill. But I do think at least trying is important. Making an effort to look put together. Many of the very young men wear their hair in a tousled coconut hairstyle and they think they look good. It’s the influence of TV, movies, sports figures and the like. Yes, the too tight suit is quite awful. But the man is trying. Don’t be so hard on them. They don’t know better. And the cost of a well made suit is astronomical. The sellers of the suits etc., today know little of fit and style themselves. The old Hollywood look was very expensive even at that time. Side note; that is NOT Fred Astaire. And he did dress quietly flamboyantly if I can say quiet and flamboyant in the same breath. He wore ties as belts. He was very lean which gave his bespoke clothing an elegance - he probably could have worn off the rack at that time due to better materials and cut.

A good alternative is to buy real materials first. Hard to find today.

Women are pressured to wear new, new, new. At a glance we may look nice but up close the materials are flammable. A new standard would be to buy less, but better. Hard today with all the pressure. Please understand that the young who are trying are learning. Their grandfathers probably didn’t dress all that well either. My experience as a woman born in the 50’s is that the rock n’ rollers really blew things up. The old R&B guys at least looked cool. My grandmother was my influence- so chic on a limited budget - she bought the best she could afford. Had only several outfits which she spruced up with accessories. Always had one amazing thing on, wore only Italian shoes - ( usually waited for sales at the end of the year at high end clothiers, etc) but those were the days when you could save for something wonderful. She couldn’t do it now.

You’re right about the luxury brands. They just aren’t as well made. I don’t understand the leather that looks like plastic.

If I could - I’d make my own clothing.

Matthew Torelli-Moynihan's avatar

You've completely missed the most formal level of clothing - especially for weddings and funerals - which is morning dress for daytime events and white tie for evening events (obviously you're not going to have an evening funeral).

Black tie is traditionally known as "semi-formal" and should really only be worn after 6pm to a meal, rather than to formal events during the day like a wedding. Hence its name in the UK: "dinner jacket".

Your example towards the end of the article, Fred Astaire, is wearing white tie in the photo - why not take the opportunity to discuss it!

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